Macworld:
Last week at the Google I/O developer conference, Google announced a raft of forthcoming additions to its Google Photos service. Since Google Photos runs on iOS and in any web browser, it’s a serious photo-storage option for Mac, iPhone, and iPad users—and in many ways, it’s way ahead of Apple’s Photos apps and iCloud Photo Library service.
Then again, WWDC—Apple’s own developer conference—is in just two weeks. It’s an opportunity for Apple to declare where it’s taking Photos and iCloud Photo Library next. In the meantime, though, it’s worth pointing out where Google Photos is beating Apple’s offerings, and where Apple’s ahead—and how WWDC could be poised to change both sides of the equation.
I don’t use either to manage my photos. Any Loopers want to weigh in on their particular pros and cons?
I agree with the above, and I choose not to use Google Photos for that reason. I think I understand why Apple’s facial recognition has its limitations: keep all data constrained within each device. When you’re tagging faces in photographs, that is data about a person that doesn’t start with the person sharing it. It’s data about John Doe that someone other than John Doe originated. So I can see why they don’t want to expose facial tags to any kind of transmission or sharing.
Still, it’s a lot of effort to go through your photos and decide which faces belong to which people. Practically speaking, I won’t end up duplicating that effort for each device, so it’s suboptimal design.
Agreed. Trade-offs. I wonder if there could be a way to use the computer instead of the cloud to sync them, if it’s the cloud that’s the big deal.
A big difference is that you can put all your photos on Google Drive and use Google photos as a fast, smart viewer. iCloud Photos is syncing, so even with optimization of storage size you can’t put a huge photo library on icloud unless you are willing to use up a ton of space on all your devices. Isn’t this right?
Not quite. Photos on your Mac gives you the option to either keep all photos on the Mac, or optimise for storage. This option will keep recent photos on your Mac, and just thumbnails for the rest and download as needed. Does the same for your iOS devices.
I use Photos and really appreciate the syncing etc it offers. I do agree with Jason’s ideas though, some of the stuff in Google Photos would be nice.
I have a very large library. So now, just using iCloud Photo Library for pictures taken on my phone (35k + pics) I am using 120GB on the phone and 140GB on the cloud. I have optimize storage on. Problem is is I have 1TB of photos archived on Google drive. Google photos gives me a way to search through and find everything in my archive, while only using about 4GB on my phone. How would iCloud deal with a 1TB library? How much local storage would it use on my devices? I like photos for editing and I find the search features pretty good with the exception of manually adding faces to the face detection, but it strikes me that google is still offering a cloud service while iCloud is syncing across devices. Happy to hear your input.
As I understand it, iOS / iCloud will keep originals on your phone up to a capacity of 90% of your phones total capacity. So once you go past 90% of your phone drive, it will keep the latest pics as originals, and the rest as small thumbnails on the phone. When you want to access those pics, I guess it downloads that original and moves an older one back into the cloud.
So your 1 Tb of pics are still all available, but if you wanted to edit something from five years ago, you just wait a second or two to access the full version.
Obviously you need to have a 1 Tb iCloud account to save it all.
I like having originals of all my pics available on at least one of my Macs – I’d hate the idea of it all just being “in the cloud”.
Oh I have local copies of everything ( a couple redundant pones, but they are not in apple photos. Provided I have internet access I can view anything in my collection where ever I am. To do that with iCloud Photo Library i have to turn over 90% of all my devices to this master library. I think it is just the difference between cloud storage and sync. Apple is trying to mirror all the content in the cloud on all devices (while optimizing local storage). Google stores everything in the cloud and lets you view it from the app. Right now neither is ideal in my admittedly extreme case.
Sorry I was a little unclear with the 90% thing. The iCloud management kicks in when the drive is at 90% – but that can be anything. So your drive might be 85% apps, mail, videos etc, and 5% Photos / iCloud Docs. It’s not going to delete apps to make room for more photos.
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