Quincy Larsen digs into the results from the O’Reilly 2016 Salary Survey of 5,000 developers.
Perhaps the most important takeaway:
Not only are women grossly under-represented among developers, but they are grossly under-paid.
Women earned on average $13,000 less than their male counterparts.
Even when you control for location, title, and years of experience, women still get $5,000 less per year than men.
I suspect one thing that would make this change is if this sort of data was exposed on a company by company basis.
Read the whole thing. There’s a lot of good data here.
Freakonomics did a really good podcast on the Gender pay gap. There are probably a few things here that aren’t being accounted for, but I doubt this is too far off the mark.
Seriously, if I were a woman, why would I even want to insert myself into this boys club where I don’t get paid…
Great video on how every company in America can save 23% on wages due to wage gap (but not really)
Statistically, it is unfair how much women get paid in the US compared to men since if two people are doing the same exact job and worked the exact same hours in a year, on the whole, women get paid more.
In the US:
men average 8.4 hours/day vs. 7.8 hours/day for women – this alone is sufficient to see why women get paid less as they average 150 hours/year less work (http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2015/time-spent-working-by-full-and-part-time-status-gender-and-location-in-2014.htm)
19% of men work over 50 hours/week vs. 7% of women (http://qz.com/149428/mens-overtime-hours-are-keeping-the-gender-pay-gap-alive/)
92% of on-the-job deaths kill men (think crane accident, crushed in a combine, etc.). Dangerous jobs usually pay much higher than non-dangerous jobs (http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cftb0292.pdf)
Finally, why do these disparities exist?
When asked, 60% of women working full-time would prefer to work part time (12% of men asked the same question answered the same) (http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303592404577361883019414296)
having worked on oil rig support ships for 4 years (operating in 30 foot waves and being out to sea for months at a time), the number of women i saw in a dive suit with welding gear… or directing a crane on a pitching deck… or or turning a wrench in the engine room was…
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that doesn’t make me special – but it does mean that i made a lot more money than someone working in a day care facility (99% women) or as a social worker. And it does mean that women clearly don’t want to do those jobs. I don’t know anyone who would have cared if there was a woman there or not.
And i think you are a jerk if you want to force someone to do a job they don’t want to do.
If two people are doing the exact same job and work the exact same hours – they should (and almost always do) get paid the same in the US, regardless of their private bits, race, or proclivities.
Career selection and number of hour selection is a personal decision, and no one should be forced to do what they don’t want to do.
The pay gap still exists when people are working the exact same job, with same number of hours and performance.
Thank you for your baseless and dataless assertion. It contributed greatly to the discussion.
There is too much evidence out there to provide a comprehensive sourcing, but this NYTimes article gives a high level overview: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/upshot/the-pay-gap-is-because-of-gender-not-jobs.html
“Take doctors and surgeons. Women earn 71 percent of men’s wages — after controlling for age, race, hours and education. Women who are financial specialists make 66 percent of what men in the same occupation earn, and women who are lawyers and judges make 82 percent.”
Watch. He references the same exact article.
Nothing in that video refutes the fact that gender pay bias does exist and is especially bad in many fields. Sure, it’s massively overstated in terms of an overall effect and there are various causes, but in many cases women are getting paid much less than their male peers.