From Business Insider:
Former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney Could Be Apple’s Next PR Boss
Nope.
Tim Cook has never even met Jay Carney.
About the rumor Jay Carney could be Apple’s next PR boss
From Business Insider:
Former White House Press Secretary Jay Carney Could Be Apple’s Next PR Boss
Nope.
Tim Cook has never even met Jay Carney.
I love when you club these stories over the head.
It would be impossible for Apple to hire Jay Carney as the PR boss. The company needs someone who tells the truth.
Sounds like a story that Carney leaked in order to get considered for the position.
Swisher’s report was the first time Jay Carney had even heard about there being a company named Apple…
Thank you Jim!
Keeping this totally apolitical (as in not right or left), Carney wasn’t even that great and not all that well respected of a Press Secretary (particularly by the White House Press Corps). Probably a lot better options out there.
Not to naysay the naysaying, but Tim not meeting Jay doesn’t negate the possibility that Jay’s name has been “bandied about”. They do have a connection through Lisa Jackson, former head of EPA under President Obama and current Apple environmental chief. If (and I mean IF) Jackson mentioned Carney as an option, then his name was “bandied about” for the job. Doesn’t mean it went anywhere beyond that. Of course, we don’t know how far the search itself has gone. Could be none of the candidates have met Tim Cook yet.
Dalrymple saying “nope” is good as gold that it’s not happening.
“Business Insider is the source?
Not going to happen.”
“Tim not meeting Jay doesn’t negate the possibility that Jay’s name has been “bandied about”.
Carney’s name is being “bandied about” but not by anyone at Apple, contrary to all the (typically stupid) “reporting” of this story by the tech media.
Not even the original source of the story (which, in case no one has bothered to check, is ONE LINE of a larger Re/Code story) said anything about Apple being interested in Carney. Doesn’t stop the asshats in the media from failing reading comprehension and jumping to conclusions, though.
Are you implying that there is an EPA?
I’m not questioning the “nope”. In fact, if Jim had left it at that, I would have nothing to doubt. But he didn’t, so I do.
You seem certain no one at Apple is discussing Jay Carney as an option, despite their connection to Carney (through Jackson) and opening for a head of PR who can handle the press at the highest level and spin scandals while keeping secrets. I would think the company that says “no” to a thousand options would first have to consider a thousand options.
Swisher wouldn’t say anything if there was no intent for word to get around.
Man, and Re/code/AllThingsD has been a very solid source of rumors. Time to add a grain of salt, so to speak. :/
At the risk of somehow sounding political (somehow),
I see what you did there
Not sure why that causes doubt. Had he not used the word “nope” and just provided his own doubt then I might agree.
“spin scandals”
Some options are not on the table to consider.
Jim would never use his legendary “nope” if there was any doubt. Also, note that the original story was about Uber and had one line that claimed his name was being “bandied about” for Apple. But the story never claimed anyone at Apple was throwing his name around.
Yes – I am certain.
It opens the door to doubt because it adds a flaw to the argument. It’s like an overeager prosecutor throwing all the available evidence at a clearly guilty killer (a scenario that’s frequently repeats itself). At first glance, it seems the more evidence you have, the stronger the case. But when you nail weak supports into strong, it introduces flaws (nail points) into the strong supports and adds weight to the structure that itself adds strain to the support. In other words, more evidence does not necessarily mean stronger evidence (much as more features and more phones does not mean better phones).
Whether Cook met Carney does not affect whether Carney might be considered, so why add that detail? Does Jim think it means something? It doesn’t. All it does is add a flaw to what would have been a solid “nope”.
Right. Because no one overreacts to iPhones dropping calls when held or allegations of stock backdating and poor factory conditions, and the media is so cool about this stuff they never have to be managed.
I concur wholeheartedly. Apple would be better suited with someone who has never set foot in Washington DC.
Not even “one line” really, it’s a parenthetical to ONE LINE.
That may be so, but when you’ve got a former Vice-President on your Board of Directors you’re clearly not averse to a political veteran.
I love how an article, mostly about Uber looking for a pol, and definitively stating that Jay Carney had talked to Uber became an article about him joining Apple, despite nothing concrete that Apple has ever even considered him.
If only Ron Ziegler was still alive. Oh, the comedy.
Exactly. Utterly ridiculous how that one line got blown so out of proportion by the (typical) nimrods in the tech media.
Carney would drive more business away … not attract it. He’s a known liar.
LOL You may be unclear as to what “PR” does. Lots of PR professionals are “known liars”. Hell, Katie Cotton, who’s job many seem to think Carney was up for, was famous for lying directly to the media, myself included.
…. he’d be perfect for the job then.
Oh come on.. “someone who tells the truth”? Really? PR isn’t journalism. It’s about “directing the narrative”, influencing opinions, agendas and reception. Sure, you can achieve these goals in a straight-forward, clear and concise Apple-like way but “telling the truth” in and off itself isn’t a goal for any PR department. It’s a mean to and end, if suitable, at best. Even in Cupertino – where, one would think, PR is more about “educating/explaining highly opinionated design decisions” than it is about “hiding dirty laundry” or “twisting the facts”, anyway.
So, in a way, I would still agree that the hire wouldn’t make a lot of sense.
On the other side: During that very strange eBook trail – even more so with it’s upsetting outcome – many people suggested that Apple could use a stronger foothold in Washington. I’d rather see them hire Jay Carney as PR chief than spending millions on shady politicians and their campaigns.